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B1UP Service Component - Print / PrintWebService for WebApplication, WebApps (Crystal Reports)

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    Rasmus Jensen

    Please note that we only count one vote per company so no need to vote more than one from the same company

  • Simon Berleb - neumeierAG

    Hi Rasmus, thank you for the information. OK so.

    What do you think about this feature request? Is the description fOK as generic explanation?

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  • Rasmus Jensen

    The explanation is fine and clear but honestly, I'm not that keen on the idea itself It is quite old-fashioned to print anything these days IMHO (we do everything email; no need to get rid of more rain-forest). It is also not the trend to make internal services that people need to struggle opening ports internally causing all kind of support.

    I see a more possible solution (although SAP is not technically ready for it yet) is a cloud service that does something like this (but again mostly used for Email and not printing) is more likely to be made from Boyum.

    But let's see. We are driven by what most people want and if enough vote for this from different companies we might change our opinion.

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  • Simon Berleb - neumeierAG

    Hi Rasmus,
    here you're right. The use case is from the eCommerce area. The best example here is Amazon itself, they send in most packages the delivery note as a printed document in addition. Actually a common process at eCommerce companies.
    Best regards Simon

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  • Simon Berleb - neumeierAG

    Rasmus Jensen:

    https://influence.sap.com/sap/ino/#/idea/230088

    Is your feature request referencing this thread? 

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  • Rasmus Jensen

    Yes, that is related... (the technical part SAP was not yet ready for)... We have some long-term plans at some point to do something with the above and service layer, but still a bit too early to start working on it.

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  • Simon Berleb - neumeierAG

    Sounds good...

    We are on a point where we have to decide to wait for a product feature like that, or implement the full process by our self.

    So your plan is that you go over the Crystal Report B1ServiceLayer API and work on to get B1Print&Delivery Crystal Reports exposed?

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  • Rasmus Jensen

    As mentioned it is a long term goal, but honestly not something that I expect we begin in the first half of 2020. After that is unknown, so if you need it here and now it is best to go with your own tailor-made solution

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  • Simon Berleb - neumeierAG

    Your feature request have been delivered by SAP Business One Production team.
    Allow Service Layer to interact with Crystal Reports

    • We have now the possibility to get the rendered PDF directly from the B1ServiceLayer (nice!)
    1. What is your plan here? At the moment we could not get a B1UP Crystal Report, right?
    2. Do you think our feature request for communicate per web request with a Boyum Service and the Service handle the printing will come with this input?
      https://support.boyum-it.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360034251354-B1UP-Service-Component-Print-PrintWebService-for-WebApplication-WebApps-Crystal-Reports-
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  • Rasmus Jensen

    We have actually started the first experiments with the new service last week but unfortunately, we have not managed to get it working yet (SAP documentation is very sparse on how this actually works).. But that is most likely beginners' problems.

     

    There are however 4 big hurdles to overcome before it can actually become a product:

     

    1. Service Layer still lack direct SQL statements (we are working on getting SAP to understand that this is needed (else you as an example can’t make the B1UP server component using Service Layer and B1P&Ds options need to be severely limited (as in fixed emails, fixed texts, not fancy report action etc. ☹)))
    2. The Crystal Report API is only for HANA2 (SBO10) which severely limit the potential market that could switch so far so we can’t make a total replacement of the server Component (SAP is working on getting it for MSSQL as well)
    3. The Crystal Reports that can be launched needs to be embedded in the database in order to work with the new service; aka can’t use external files as B1UP does it right now (we know how to do that and it is planned to prepare for the future) [this is you mentioned bullet 1]
    4. We then need to make it all in the cloud (several hundred hours of development time)

     

    The main issue (as always) is that we do not control the SAP part (bullet 1 and 2)…It is hard to know a timeline for this… (to perhaps the point that we might consider your first request and make it on the old Server-component manner if it takes too long because you are not the only ones asking for a more on-demand execution of B1P&D).

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